Comments on: Sorry Ed but you are not a Scoble! http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/ I'm Steve Richards a strategist and all round tech enthusiast working on enterprise desktop, application delivery and collaboration solutions. I work from home by the coast in the North West of England. All the views expressed in this blog are my own. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:20:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-261 Anonymous Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:44:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-261 I find it somewhat amazing but yet not surprising the perception of his impact on Microsoft Scoble has appeared to convey on the blogging community. Scoble wrote his perception of his own world. In actuality Scoble was a low-level MS employee that chose to blog about his perceptions of Microsoft. Sure his Channel 9 duties enabled him to make connections with many within Microsoft that were producing technology. But in that role he was no different than that dude that used to do those technology reports on airlines. He just showed up and filmed people. To think that he had any impact within Microsoft from a change perspective is not reality. He would like all of us to believe that, but the truth of that matter is is that not even 1/3rd of Microsoft employees knew who he was. His leaving is a non-event within the company. No one will miss him from a strategic or setting direction perspective. In fact, I would submit that his team won't miss him. He is just as replaceable as a tester or a support engineer. So please, let's stop with that idea that Scoble had any impact on much of anything of strategic value within the walls of Microsoft. As the saying goes: "He's a legend in his own mind" I find it somewhat amazing but yet not surprising the perception of his impact on Microsoft Scoble has appeared to convey on the blogging community. Scoble wrote his perception of his own world. In actuality Scoble was a low-level MS employee that chose to blog about his perceptions of Microsoft. Sure his Channel 9 duties enabled him to make connections with many within Microsoft that were producing technology. But in that role he was no different than that dude that used to do those technology reports on airlines. He just showed up and filmed people. To think that he had any impact within Microsoft from a change perspective is not reality. He would like all of us to believe that, but the truth of that matter is is that not even 1/3rd of Microsoft employees knew who he was. His leaving is a non-event within the company. No one will miss him from a strategic or setting direction perspective. In fact, I would submit that his team won’t miss him. He is just as replaceable as a tester or a support engineer. So please, let’s stop with that idea that Scoble had any impact on much of anything of strategic value within the walls of Microsoft. As the saying goes: “He’s a legend in his own mind”

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-260 Anonymous Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:53:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-260 I've engaged Graham via e-mail. My blog on this applies reasonably well to Graham as well -- I do agree that I need to get some topics more front-and-center. I’ve engaged Graham via e-mail. My blog on this applies reasonably well to Graham as well — I do agree that I need to get some topics more front-and-center.

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-257 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:28:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-257 I think after all the posts that David has made coaching me on this discussion, I can forgive him one little slip. For Robert read Steve :-) I think after all the posts that David has made coaching me on this discussion, I can forgive him one little slip. For Robert read Steve :-)

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-256 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:16:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-256 David, who's "Robert"? ;o) David, who’s “Robert”? ;o)

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-255 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:35:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-255 Not a problem, Robert. Completely understandable in the loose-wording scenario. Just wanted to make sure the connection was with IM products in general and not just Sametime. Not a problem, Robert. Completely understandable in the loose-wording scenario. Just wanted to make sure the connection was with IM products in general and not just Sametime.

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-254 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:30:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-254 Good point David, it was my loose wording, I didn't mean to imply that this was actually as a result of problems with Sametime, just that lots of companies have yet to implement any form of enterprise IM product. Good point David, it was my loose wording, I didn’t mean to imply that this was actually as a result of problems with Sametime, just that lots of companies have yet to implement any form of enterprise IM product.

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-253 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:01:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-253 Steve, I think you will see, as I have seen, that most companies do not have a problem with Sametime as much they do with instant messaging themselves. I have heard countless companies worry about productivity of their employees than they complain about Sametime. LCS will be no different. Steve, I think you will see, as I have seen, that most companies do not have a problem with Sametime as much they do with instant messaging themselves. I have heard countless companies worry about productivity of their employees than they complain about Sametime.

LCS will be no different.

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-259 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:14:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-259 Ed made a considered reply to my comments which you can find here if you are interested http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf/dx/steve-richards-sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble, it's a useful balence piece and points out some mis reading on my part, but there is definately some value emerging from the debate Ed made a considered reply to my comments which you can find here if you are interested http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf/dx/steve-richards-sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble, it’s a useful balence piece and points out some mis reading on my part, but there is definately some value emerging from the debate

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-258 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:23:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-258 Nice to see he responded to you - even though he ignored me Nice to see he responded to you - even though he ignored me

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-252 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:59:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-252 Hi Alan, I look to your blog for information about Lotus/IBM products and I think its a good resourse, but there are way too few like it. I don't personally need another blog that makes superficial comparisons with Microsoft stuff. Whilst I had nothing much against your post, I just don't want to see your positive information blog turn into a Microsoft bashing blog like Ed Brill's. That said it's a bit worrying that your post got so much attention, it seems that Lotus fans are looking for something to make them feel valued and comments like "I swear I was in a Sametime session held in 1998" seem to be just the sort of thing they are looking for. I think you would find it interesting to dig into a product like LCS and its client Office Communicator and do a comparison of the shipping capabilities compared to Sametime, and aside from web conferencing I think your would be suprised at how much Microsoft have actually shipped. It's also pretty important when you make comments like "The presenter was actually demoing how you can change your status from "Available" to "I am away". As anger crept up in me, I decided to take a deep breath and calm myself, accepting the fact that these real-time features are new to many companies" To remember that just because a feature is being demonstrated doesn't mean it's new in fact like Sametime it has been shipping for many years. Sametime also suffers from the fact that in my experience around 50% of Lotus customers have yet to deploy it. Hi Alan, I look to your blog for information about Lotus/IBM products and I think its a good resourse, but there are way too few like it. I don’t personally need another blog that makes superficial comparisons with Microsoft stuff. Whilst I had nothing much against your post, I just don’t want to see your positive information blog turn into a Microsoft bashing blog like Ed Brill’s.

That said it’s a bit worrying that your post got so much attention, it seems that Lotus fans are looking for something to make them feel valued and comments like “I swear I was in a Sametime session held in 1998″ seem to be just the sort of thing they are looking for. I think you would find it interesting to dig into a product like LCS and its client Office Communicator and do a comparison of the shipping capabilities compared to Sametime, and aside from web conferencing I think your would be suprised at how much Microsoft have actually shipped.

It’s also pretty important when you make comments like

“The presenter was actually demoing how you can change your status from “Available” to “I am away”. As anger crept up in me, I decided to take a deep breath and calm myself, accepting the fact that these real-time features are new to many companies”

To remember that just because a feature is being demonstrated doesn’t mean it’s new in fact like Sametime it has been shipping for many years. Sametime also suffers from the fact that in my experience around 50% of Lotus customers have yet to deploy it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-251 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:28:00 +0000 http://steves.seasidelife.com/2006/06/14/sorry-ed-but-you-are-not-a-scoble/#comment-251 Steve, thank you for the compliment on my blog, but can you please explain your objection to the TechEd related posting? I've gotten dozens of emails thanking me for that post. I certainly plan on posting about the others days as well, I've just been too busy so far. Steve, thank you for the compliment on my blog, but can you please explain your objection to the TechEd related posting? I’ve gotten dozens of emails thanking me for that post. I certainly plan on posting about the others days as well, I’ve just been too busy so far.

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