Jun 11 2008
iForum – Panel Discussion
- Why change Presentation Server to XenApp?
- The future is going to be bigger than the past
- Seen as a way to communicate that Citrix is relevant to the mainstream
- It simplifies the message
- What is the advantage of XenApp on XenServer?
- XenApp itself is not always worth virtualising, but some XenApp servers and supporting infrastructure servers will be worthwhile
- Now that the overhead of XenApp on XenServer is only 7% sometimes its worth virtualising because there is a benefit from everything being virtual, even if the ratio is 1 to 1
- Some customers would rather have a smaller number of users per server than the hardware allows, hence pushing the ratio to say 4 to 1.
- Why did Ian decide to develop Xen?
- A typical open source success story
- Very close working relationship with hardware vendors, shipping Xen code has features that won’t light up until hardware ships that supports it in 2009
- Lots of open source innovation on top of Xen and extending Xen
- Although Citrix say this is not Linux like, I think it is, only the hypervisor is open source, very similar to the Linux kernel. Both projects by keeping the core deliverable limited in scope allow a lot of innovation around it
- Will Citrix drop Xen when HyperV comes out?
- Citrix will leverage Microsoft, but that’s all
- Think of Xen and HyperV in the same way as ICA and RDP, my comment – this analogy works provided that HyperV lags behind Xen in capabilities
- Citrix definitely think they will stay ahead of Microsoft in the hypervisor space
- General question on integration
- Citrix are very keen on Powershell
- Workflow studio integrates well with powershell
- Several products are optimised to work well together, eg WanScaler for caching streamed apps and shaping ICA traffic
- Citrix core DNA?
- To be a good enterprise citizen
- For example snap into and integrate with other management infrastructures
- Good partner
- Pragmatic
- Will continue to stick to what they do best
- Not compete by closed lock-in strategies, Citrix will provide best integration with their own products, but will also work well with competing products
- Will everyone in the world be on XenDesktop tomorrow?
- XenDesktop is very exciting
- Its not for everyone
- XenApp is still more cost effective
- XenDesktop promise extends uowards to those who need a “higher definition” experience – still not clear to me what they mean by this
- Is there a Linux host for XenDesktop?
- Currently no, Citrix claim that this is based on demand, I’m surprised I would expect XenDesktop for Linux being much more cost effective than Windows
- What’s the roadmap to fix inter application communication with virtualization?
- This is a key issue, coming out in the next release “real soon now”
- As the OS moves to the network disk, why not put the apps on the network disk as well like Thinstall (now Thinapp)
- Citrix didn’t really answer the question, however my comment is that if you pre-cache the apps in the PVS image then the experience is very Thinstall like
- XenDesktop is still very early, Citrix are definitely looking to move to supporting physical desktops, laptops just as well as they support virtual desktops and hosted apps/desktops
- Will Citrix provide a different licensing model – eg monthly subscription
- No, it doesn’t seem to make sense since customers have already invested in the server hardware. My comment, I’m not so sure – in the flexible datacentre the servers can be reused elsewhere, and subscription licences would allow customers to invest in Citrix only while they are competitive and switch if they stop being
